From: "22" <toto@to.to>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 05:07:16 +0800
Subject: Monastic (based on Poukha scan)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.fonts

K22 Monastic is based on Monastic from Victorian Display Alphabets.

Download the font at http://www.fontspace.com/toto/k22-monastic  [See font download link below]

Alphabets and punctuations from Poukha's Monastic scan. Some numerals from 
MSJ 1892 specimen book. The rest of the numerals and some cyrillics from 
Claude's images.

Alternate characters for small caps A, M and R can be accessed using  the 
[, ] and { characters repectively.

The characters in the last row in the attached image are not in Poukha's 
scan.

Documentation/credits are in the font's description field.

Thank you, Poukha. Merci, Claude.

Toto 

Attachment: k22-monastic.jpg


From: Character <Char@cters.bold.italic>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:18:20 -0700
Subject: Re: Monastic (based on Poukha scan) II
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.fonts

I just noticed that you've omitted mention of Monastic appearing on 
page 13 of the . This is the place that people are 
more likely to encounter it.

  - Ch.

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From: Type Historian <>
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:00:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Attn.Anna: exemple de Monastic (jpg)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.fonts

On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:14:23 -0600, claude <claudeserieux©gmail.com>
wrote:

>page 13 Dan X Solo
>
Yes, this specimen matches Solo's:

Solotype Catalog 13
Victorian Display Alphabets 72

I have never seen a digital version with the "swash" caps, and I'd
love to have one!  If you intend to digitize it, please let me know
whether I should scan it.
____

There are several 19th-C fonts called "Monastic."  Most are light-face
latins with small caps for LC:

http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/scriptorium/chambord/

The one in your jpeg was released by Caslon c1865--he called it
"Venetian" or "Ancient" [Gray 189]. 

Calson  [c1864] offerred a different font he called "Monastic" [Gray
203]--a tuscan also digitized by Nalle:

http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/scriptorium/primer/

Besides a Caslon Venetian/Ancient look-alike named Monastic, MS&J
showed Monastic No 3 with extra flourishes in the swash caps and
alternate SC/LC letterforms.  

MS&J also sold a Monastic Condensed that matches these specimens [no
swash caps]:

Solotype Catalog 20
Decorative Condensed Alphabets 61

Anna

From: Type Historian <>
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:11:46 -0500
Subject: Is Monastic French? - More Monastics.zip (0/1)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.fonts

Something is "fishy" about Monastic...  This is not unusual--it still
happens every day:  font names are changed for good and not-so-good
reasons.

According to Gray, Caslon offerred a light-face *tuscan* named
Monastic c1864.  

She dates Caslon's light-face *latin* that US founders called Monastic
as c1865.

A few hours ago, I found a matching specimen named Monastic in Boston
TF's catalog of 1860 [attached zip].

It is unlikely that Caslon originated this face in or before 1860
because Gray would have recorded the earliest date--she examined every
specimen available at St Brides plus private collections in London
during the late 1930s.

The Boston specimen is only about 1/4 page, no patent is cited and no
special attention is called to it.  So I conclude that Boston TF was a
distributor of Monastic.

As of 1907, Farmer and Bruce TFs also offerred matching Monastics
[attached zip].

Just as I was thinking it may be French, I found this--as usual, while
looking for something else:

Kelly [p 202] illustrates a matching un-named specimen captioned, "a
French invention of the 1860's which was revived and extended in
America during the period between 1880 and 1885." 

This explanation seems right to me.  Do you have access to 19th-C
French specimens that verify what Kelly wrote?

If so, would you be kind enough to let me know what you find?

Many thanks, Anna

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